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Old 02-12-2007, 11:02 AM
Roger
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Force NTLM on Vista Home Premium

I have a networked disk running a samba server (NAS-347). I'm told the
reason I cant access the folders is that Vista uses NTLM-2 by default but I
cant find how to force Vista to use NTLM in the home edition. Can anyone
help?
Thanks
Roger.

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Re: Force NTLM on Vista Home Premium

Google is your friend

To allow NTLMv1 or LM challenge-response operations, first become a user
with Administrator rights. Next, run the program secpol.msc. Under Local
Policies then Security Options, there should be something that reads,
"Network Security: LAN Manager authentication level." By default, "Send
NTLMv2 response only" is selected. There are a few options available, but
choosing "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated" seems
to make the most sense. Everything should now magically start to work if
using non-NTLMv2 aware systems.

"Roger" <roger_barrett******.com> wrote in message
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>I have a networked disk running a samba server (NAS-347). I'm told the
>reason I cant access the folders is that Vista uses NTLM-2 by default but I
>cant find how to force Vista to use NTLM in the home edition. Can anyone
>help?
> Thanks
> Roger.


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Old 02-12-2007, 12:01 PM
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Re: Force NTLM on Vista Home Premium


"Roger" <roger_barrett******.com> wrote in message
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>I have a networked disk running a samba server (NAS-347). I'm told the
>reason I cant access the folders is that Vista uses NTLM-2 by default
>but I cant find how to force Vista to use NTLM in the home edition. Can
>anyone help?


Change "lmcompatibilitylevel" in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa
to dword:00000001

Regards,

Dave


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Old 02-12-2007, 01:15 PM
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Re: Force NTLM on Vista Home Premium


"Michael Price" <EmJay_Price@msn.com> wrote in message
news:8CEEC987-3EBC-4FDA-9E60-289E1336584C@microsoft.com...
> "Roger" <roger_barrett******.com> wrote in message
> news:FA1AF602-C89F-4C99-8C42-FFDF22B03F15@microsoft.com...
>>I have a networked disk running a samba server (NAS-347). I'm told the
>>reason I cant access the folders is that Vista uses NTLM-2 by default
>>but I cant find how to force Vista to use NTLM in the home edition.
>>Can anyone help?
>> Thanks
>> Roger.

>
> Google is your friend
>
> To allow NTLMv1 or LM challenge-response operations, first become a
> user with Administrator rights. Next, run the program secpol.msc.
> Under Local Policies then Security Options, there should be something
> that reads, "Network Security: LAN Manager authentication level." By
> default, "Send NTLMv2 response only" is selected. There are a few
> options available, but choosing "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session
> security if negotiated" seems to make the most sense. Everything
> should now magically start to work if using non-NTLMv2 aware systems.
>


Unfortunately, since the OP is asking about a Home version, this doesn't
apply. MS did not include secpol.msc in the Home versions, you have to
edit the registry manually (which seems kinda backwards - home users are
the ones most in need of a GUI in front of the registry, business users
often have IT people to help with this stuff... Oh well)

Regards,

Dave


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Old 02-12-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Force NTLM on Vista Home Premium

Dave R. wrote:
> "Michael Price" <EmJay_Price@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:8CEEC987-3EBC-4FDA-9E60-289E1336584C@microsoft.com...
>> "Roger" <roger_barrett******.com> wrote in message
>> news:FA1AF602-C89F-4C99-8C42-FFDF22B03F15@microsoft.com...
>>> I have a networked disk running a samba server (NAS-347). I'm told the
>>> reason I cant access the folders is that Vista uses NTLM-2 by default
>>> but I cant find how to force Vista to use NTLM in the home edition.
>>> Can anyone help?
>>> Thanks
>>> Roger.

>> Google is your friend
>>
>> To allow NTLMv1 or LM challenge-response operations, first become a
>> user with Administrator rights. Next, run the program secpol.msc.
>> Under Local Policies then Security Options, there should be something
>> that reads, "Network Security: LAN Manager authentication level." By
>> default, "Send NTLMv2 response only" is selected. There are a few
>> options available, but choosing "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session
>> security if negotiated" seems to make the most sense. Everything
>> should now magically start to work if using non-NTLMv2 aware systems.
>>

>
> Unfortunately, since the OP is asking about a Home version, this doesn't
> apply. MS did not include secpol.msc in the Home versions, you have to
> edit the registry manually (which seems kinda backwards - home users are
> the ones most in need of a GUI in front of the registry, business users
> often have IT people to help with this stuff... Oh well)


I don't know whether the OP ever got his answer or not, but here is how
to do this manually - all credit and thanks to MVP Steve Winograd:

1. Run the registry editor and open this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa

1. If it doesn't already exist, create a DWORD value named
LmCompatibilityLevel

3. Set the value to 1

4. Reboot


Malke
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Old 02-13-2007, 01:16 PM
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Re: Force NTLM on Vista Home Premium


"Dave R." <dwragle at drbsystems dot com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger" <roger_barrett******.com> wrote in message
> news:FA1AF602-C89F-4C99-8C42-FFDF22B03F15@microsoft.com...
>>I have a networked disk running a samba server (NAS-347). I'm told the
>>reason I cant access the folders is that Vista uses NTLM-2 by default but
>>I cant find how to force Vista to use NTLM in the home edition. Can anyone
>>help?

>
> Change "lmcompatibilitylevel" in
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa
> to dword:00000001
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>

Thanks all - unfortunately the machine still hangs when I try and access the
network drive - I'll have to keep searching for another solution.

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